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Just when you think we finally heard the single most outrageous Republican excuse for trying to obstruct President Obama's agenda for change, something like this comes along.

Republican Congresswoman Michele Bachmann, a national GOP figure, actually said that one of her excuses for 'just saying no' to President Obama's economic recovery bill was because "we're running out of rich people in this country." Huh?

This one is too outrageous to ignore. My friends at the DCCC have set a goal of raising $50,000 by Midnight on Wednesday to show Bachmann and the GOP that they should worry less about America running out of rich people and more about the power of grassroots Democrats like you to keep them in the minority for years to come.

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Crazy Michele didn't even stop there. She went on to claim that:

President Obama's recovery package includes a "national rationing board" to make health care decisions for you (a lie), billions of dollars for the community organizing group ACORN (another lie), and...are you ready for this one...$1,430 for every man, woman, child on earth (the biggest lie of all, or possibly a broken calculator).

Eight years of Bush-Cheney polices are now sending middle class families to the poorhouse by the millions. Yet, these Republican bozos have the nerve to still be the party of no when it comes to fixing the economic mess their policies caused - and then come up with these outrageous lies and sorry excuses for their obstructionist tactics.

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There are so many examples of this kind of nonsense. Please stop hammering us on it… we know. We’d like to hear about what great Democrats are doing, instead, to compel us to donate.

Posted by Mac in Chicago, IL | 02/23/09, 04:53 PM EST

Nice! Begala has a vocabulary as wide as the definitive term “bozos”. This site never ceases to bring a good laugh.

Posted by Dan | 02/23/09, 06:37 PM EST

Margaret Thatcher once said:

“The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people’s money.”

That is a fact, as proven by EVERY other attempt at socialism. Bachmann was just just expressing the same wisdom that has been expressed my Margret Thatcher and others in the past.

Posted by Chris D in Left Coast | 02/23/09, 07:48 PM EST

chris d why are you protecting the rich the poor need it more it not socialism to help the poor but it is to help the rich and dan not making you give you done it why dont you three go to rccc instead to bitch leave this sight for ral democrats like me

Posted by dusty | 02/24/09, 05:13 PM EST

Ms. Bachmann is one of the best fundraisers you have; she’s induced me to contribute to the DCCC again.

Posted by Don L in Burlington, VT | 02/25/09, 09:39 PM EST

Dusty…you apparently don’t know the definition of Socialism…which is not really important…

Who cares if the poor NEED it more.  This is a country that was BUILT by the people that lived and understood that we each have the right to pursue liberty and happiness.  I don’t work so i can be TOLD who I have to give my money and support to.  What then would be my incentive to continue to do so?  If my ‘giving’ is a virtue in your mind…then what is your ‘taking’? 

I don’t want to pay for you, your left winged gays, druggies, illegals, downtrodden, welfare sucking losers.  Nor do I expect you to work, live, or pay for me. 

No one in their right mind woudl make an INVESTMENT in the poor.  They are poor typically because they are lazy, uneducated, and UNMOTIVATED to be anything but leeches in this Society, because people like you REWARD leeches.  Lack of motivation cannot be fixed simply because you erect a new school. Amazing that your leaders want to help the poor.  What they really want is for US to help the poor…They aren’t helping one bit…they are telling us we have to use OUR money…while they themselves continue to amass their own personal wealth. 

Nancy Pelosi owns HUGE vineyards in California…multi-millionaire…(I have never seen a Pelosi Foundation for the Poor)...but she is the ONLY Speaker of the House that has bought 2 jets on taxpayers money, and who uses taxpayers money in the tune of $60,000/day (3-4 days per week), to fly herself back and forth.  Ironically enough, the Governor of California has a private jet too.  One he bought with his OWN money.  He commutes daily..but pays for his own jet fuel.

The Dems amass fortunes (Kennedy’s, Rockefellers, etc) and then tell us how we shoudl help the poor…WHILE voting themsevles a 10% raise and $93,000 pocket change to walk around with…taking salaries that they do not even need…and you buy into it.  OPen your eyes, moron.

Posted by spinpolitico | 02/28/09, 12:26 PM EST

Wow spinpolitico, you’ve got it all wrapped up… good form. Poor rich people, it’s just not fair, is it?!

Are you one of those claimed “religious” right wingers who acts exactly how Jesus hoped we would NOT act… or just a “conservative” who has lost their way from what are actual core “conservative” beliefs, in favor of incredibly immature, insecure, knee-jerk, crap waving?

Are you one of those re-pube-licans who doesn’t mind sending hundreds of billions of dollars over to Iraq, claiming to assist a people you continuously say you hate? Do you say things like “well… we took the fight to ‘em!”, when asked if you think the Iraq war was necessary?

Let me guess… you’ve watched some of these spots this week, on the fair and balanced channel, explaining to us just how much a trillion is… “if you ate a ham sandwich every hour since Jesus was born…”

There are actually some real arguments to be made about these issues, from most any side… ACTUAL arguments. Unfortunately you, and people like Bachmann, aren’t intelligent enough to make them. You don’t have ideas or answers, just anger and complaints.

Your party just has to explain itslef better, right?

Hey, it’s gonna be ok. Why visit here anyway… is the “Queer For Rush” blog offline or something?

Posted by Mac | 02/28/09, 09:42 PM EST

well “mac”...

You speak of intellect yet fail to address one single point I brought up.  I suspect that this might be because you cannot answer a reasonable question, so rather then try and do so, you deflect with psuedo-intllectualism that is neither germain nor relevant.  Casting aspersions against me, does not in any way elevate you, nor make oblique your failure to answer a direct question.

But what I do find laughable about you, irrespective of the premise of the war in Iraq (be it right or wrong), that nonetheless there was a man that in a single day killed 300,000 Kurds…a man who raped and tortured 10’s of thousands of his own citizens…and people like you who get upset that some butt humper doesn’t have his poor civil liberities repsetced enough to teach our children that Bob and Neil can be NORMAL parents as well…are held as esteemable civil rights.  Yet, in the face of all of Hussiens civil right abominations, you turn against your country in some misguided self righteous mantra that is so hypocritical as to be disgusting. 

Personally, I dont give a rats ass if some whacko wants to be gay or live a gay lifestyle.  I just dont want to support it, nor have my children taught it is NORMAL.  It is not.  Nor do i want MY tax dollars being used to pay 177,000 for some nut that decides he wants to have a sex change operation (which in California, i must).  Why do I have to pay for HIS elective surgery?

So spare me your insipid replies.  You are a glove with no fist.  Save your infanilte petulance for your Alms King, and go whine your story to those that capitalize upon your stupidity.

Posted by spinpolitico | 03/01/09, 01:40 AM EST

Spinner… wow, I must have touched a nerve, you even got out the Thesaurus!

Seriously… laughing here… really… c’mon… is that YOU, Joe the plumber?

And hey, professor…. who said anything about gays?... or anything about gay rights? I didn’t. Watch out… boo!

Your children’s curriculum?... sex change operations?... what the hell are you talking about? is there any pot left? I’m sorry… beer… BEER.

There’s just no substance there, Joe. “He was a really bad guy” is not an argument for how Iraq has been *handled*. Nobody… even us left winged gay, druggie, illegal, downtrodden welfare sucking losers… think he was a bit more, ya know… nicer, than you think he was.

You may have some good points.. ya gotta just stop the bitchy ranting and insulting though man… it doesn’t mean anything.

Peace.

Posted by Mac | 03/01/09, 02:17 AM EST

aw, more insults now.  simply because a person has a vocabulary that extends beyond your anemic grasp of the english language, you feel the need to put them down.  Again, this is what all you liberals do.  Bash those that have, that even enabled YOU to be, as if somehow by toppling those you deem undeserving (merely because they worked their way up the ladder, while the inept and incompetent got left behind), that you have somehow elevated yourself. 

Personally, I think ALL the conservatives just ought to leave this country.  Nothign woudl make ME laugh harder!  Who’d work?  Who’s money would you live off?  YOu are so misguided that this will be my last response to you.  But I depart giving you ONE thought to try to reasonably consider:  This country, in about 300 years, far surpassed any nation on the planet, becoming the strongest superpower in the world…in MANY ways.  We bypassed Europe, (which has been around far longer then USA) like a freight train.  ANd now you want to do what they did, TRY and make everyone equal…socialize and equalize the country.  You want us to be like them.  They are your idols.  Under Obama, we will be…we will fall back to their levels…to the levels we far exceeded, in 1/10 of the time. 

And I am not some die hard republican either.  They are equally reprehensible.  THey have correct rhetoric at least, they only failed to put it into practice.  This bullshit “big goverment”, “socialized quality at the expense of the DOERS”, and other malignancies that this blight upon America will wrought, will be the final undoing of America as it perpetually to “dumb down”, and to erode from the top to support the bottom. 

What is even more appalling in your lack of intellectual acumen, is the fact that while all you Obamanites stand there in your narcotized awe, you fail to recognize that he is playing a ‘futures market’, hoping to fatten you up, so he can tax the living shit out of you later.  You don’t think there will be ‘payback’?  LOL…you laugh now, just wait 18 months when your take home pay will range between 31-39%, and the inflation caused by the printing of so much unsecured monopoly money drives the cost of living thru the roof. 

There is a reason the Stock Market plummets every time Obama opens his mouth.  However, you sound about 15 or so, so I highly doubt you follow the markets, politics, economy, or much of anything.  You just watch that Obama coin swaying back and forth about your neck and spew your hypnotic drivel, devoid of meaning, fact, or accuracy.  Take care.

Posted by spinpolitico | 03/01/09, 02:41 AM EST

Mac,

If you are in debt, can you spend to fix the problem?  If you are seriously in debt, can you spend TONS of money to get out of debt?

Posted by Chris D in Left Coast | 03/01/09, 05:11 AM EST

Chris… huuuge question. Don’t know why you’re asking me, other than I sound like I’m an “Obamanite” and feel I should be defending his budget. OK… here goes…. it’s not cut and dried at all. The numbers are scary, but after hearing from so many economists who are scared themselves, making only marginal moves is very scary as well.

Without choosing, or picking on, sides… it’s pretty safe to say that doing pretty much the same things we’ve been doing isn’t going to work. So that’s out.

There is so much fault to go around, and we’re all angry at someone, as it’s becoming obvious what a huge mess we’re really in. There were certainly some decisions made by congressional democrats in the last few years that were totally wrong. It’s also easy to see how spending a trillion dollars on a war of choice, was the wrong choice.

whether you’re mad at the lower middle class person who got a loan they couldn’t afford, or corporate managers who run their company like it’s tremendously successful when it’s falling apart… the need for crafting responsible regulation, and then enforcing it, couldn’t be more obvious. We’re in a lot of trouble, and anyone pretending “individual responsibility” is a policy of any kind at this point is in denial, and not offering anything.

What’s also scary is being honest. Honesty about the economic cost of a preemptive war. Honesty about how we’ve lowered and lazied our standards when it comes to business running government and government wasting our money.

The amount of money we spend supporting or rebuilding countries all over the world is baffling, when you consider the financial shape we’re in now. We’ve been pretending, for a while, that we can do all these things. Obviously, we cannot. Again… broad strokes, of some kind, are needed.

I don’t know what the answer is, but I’m pretty sure it’s not doing nearly nothing.

Posted by Mac | 03/01/09, 06:58 AM EST

Actually, I think doing nothing would be a better option then the government taking pot shots in the dark. The interest only on monies Obama has spent just THIS month, is about 400 Billion per annum.  We currently already have interest only debt to the China Development Bank of almost 375 billion. (this is not including debt we have to other nations). 

This country has NEVER in it’s entire history, made enough PROFIT to even service the interest only payments on this debt.  How is it possible to “fix” things, when the debt has become so outrageous that an entire nation cannot even come close to satisfying the INTEREST on the money it owes.  Unlike Carter and those that really set this country up for the current mess we are in…THey are not just going to say “thats ok, no need to pay us back”. 

Further, when the first loan from China (800 billion) comes due in 2014, what will happen when we have no choice but to default on it? 

I have answers, and although hardly erudite certainly are better then what these crooks have schemed up.  But first, what you are failing to understand is for THEM, this has NOTHING at all to do with the economy.  They have another agenda altogether.  Hence, while we are arguing over a ‘simutlus bill’, they are playing a ‘simulate scenario’, and we are the pawns in the much bigger game.

1.  Let GM/Chrysler fail.  They are going to anyways.  The MORE money teh Feds pump into GM/Chrysler, the more their sales plummet relative to Ford.  Why?  Because people will not support the very thing they despise.  American buyers are saying…“yeah for Ford for standing on their own 2 feet”.  Go figure.  A 6 year old should have been able to see this psychological consequence.

2.  THey did not have to fail actually, inasmuch China offered to buy them out.  WHat woudl have been so terrible about this?  They sold Hummer to India.  Korea, Japan, Sweden, and other countries manufacture cars here. Of course, this would have removed the Unions, the bane upon this country.  So the politics began. 

3.  I’d take the 535 people in the house, and the unions (including the ACLU, the blight upon the landscape of humanity) and send them all to Antartica and have them try to convert foul weather and ice into a renewable energy source, thus showing benevolence to those 535 that deserve much worse.

4.  While doing NOTHING, clean up your own house.  So much of the debt could be absolved by cleaning up the WASTE.  We are run by thugs, crooks, and scum. They have stolen our money.  If we ran our business like they run theirs, we’d all be in jail for embezzelment, tax evasion, etc etc.  Hold government accountable by the same standards they hold us.

5.  Do real ‘tax cuts’ (a refund is NOT a tax cut, and hence will fail in its aim).  Since a refund is not sustainable, has no future benefit, it will not stimulate a damn thing.  There is no certitude to ameloriate future stresses.  Another faulty perception and hence waste of money. 

6.  Repair from within, build from the builders.  The aggregate cost to our economy for illegal aliens is apprx 400 billion per annum (and rising each year).  This means by getting rid of them, we could have put BACK into our economy the same amount the Obama is spending in HR-1. (at a cost of 47 billion to get them out, so it is estimated).

7.  Rather than add 300-400,000 new government jobs (which REALLLY suck the economy dry, inasmuch many are parasitic by nature, and as Lou Dobbs reported…80,000 did not even bother to show up for ONE day in an entire year, and still got FULL pay…because they are not accountable and remain laregly unmoniored…LIke their superiors, they have learend to work the system and are themselves cut from the same scummy ilk). So, stimulate the economy via a flat tax or fair tax system, get rid of 100’s of thousands of Government Jobs…and inamsuch those that support the continuance of illegal aliens in this country on the basis that they are the only ones willing to do minial labor…well, now we have a bunch of unemployed government works…“start picking or starve”!

8. Investment credits and tax cuts to business, reduction of budget, defense spending (which infuses the economy with far reaching positive economic results), these things are a start. 

9.  This is trite, and within the providence of this medium, I could not write an entire Bill with all the naunces, so trite it shall remain…but the essence of this breif outline would be this:  take everything they are doing…and do the OPPOSITE…and you might have something workable.  (from an economic perspective)

10.  Now when you consider that their intent IS to collapse this economy and bankrupt the dollar, they have done so in a brilliant way.  You don’t get it yet…but I tell you, you have voted for CHAINS you can beleive in.

Posted by spinpolitico | 03/01/09, 12:49 PM EST

Sidenote:  It is interesting to note that at change.org, the number one request of all those that participated in “recommnedations to Obama” was to repeal the Patriot Act.  Interesting how he has never so much as mentioned this. (things that make you go ‘hmmmm’)

Posted by spinpolitico | 03/01/09, 01:34 PM EST

Hey Spin… now we’re getting somewhere. While you still sound kindof skinhead-ish, I totally agree that there is so much corruption that needs attending to. When you talk about agenda… listen to excerpts from the new book “So Much Damn Money”...

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=100706260

... it’s astounding the motivations we’ve allowed our government to be run by over the last couple of decades. Seriously disappointing, and a huge part of the problems we’re faced with right now… a HUGE part.

I also agree that the way we’re funding the huge investment firms (giving them many times more money that auto makers), and the auto makers, is another indication of our lack of backbone.

Pretty remarkable though, that you’re calling Obama a crook after 40 days in office. He may not achieve what he intends to, but I believe his intentions are a huge improvement.

So, some of your points are well taken, as along as your not one of those folks still trying to paint Bush, Cheney, Rove and Graham as honorable, effective leaders… while trashing a guy like Barack. Ridiculous, and almost completely removes any credibility, and shows an extreme focus on politics, not policy (the core of a lot of these problems you’ve outlined).

One of the reasons Obama’s budget is so alarming, is because it’s honest. If he continued the games Bush & Cheney played… “handling” us by telling us everything was ok, and playing accounting games to hide their massive spending… his budget would look much better too. Or, if Bush had just not invaded Iraq, and instead spent just a couple of billion dollars getting rid of Sadam with intelligence and special ops, our economic situation would be better by a trillion dollars, easy. Bush *wanted* a presence in the middle east, and he got it… but it’s very expensive.

Or, if Bush & Cheney had just taken a responsible approach to the balanced budget they received when they arrived in office, instead of spending and tax cutting like drunken, stupid sailors (yeah, I threw “stupid” in there), that would have helped. The reason why these CEO’s feel comfortable spending billions of *our* money on parties and “retreats”, when they’re companies are failing, is ‘cause our government has been their bitch for a while, and they know it.

And now we have to run the government like a business… but it’s got to be business for the people, not for the enterprise… a huge shift in policy. An incredible difficult task.

Appreciate your ideas.

Posted by Mac | 03/01/09, 08:43 PM EST

I offer no defense for Bush.  However, that said, his spending was due to several events that triggered it…2 wars, 9/11, Katrina.  There is no point in arguing the merits or lack thereof for those wars…and for sake of conversation (without arguing “intent”), we can say that both Dems and Reps agreed to it on information provided.

Accordingly, during those 8 years of the Bush Adminstration, we had Franks and Dodd as heads of the Banking and Financing Committees.  On 3 occassions when McCain/Bush and other Republicans questioned the solvency of Fannie Mae/Freedie Mac…and tried to pass legisaltion to oppose it…they were defeated.  They were defeated because of “information provided” by Franks and Dodd who assured Congress/Senate that all was well. 

The subprime loans is the precursor to all this mess (not the entirety of it, but a large part of it).  These subprime loans were born withinn the womb of the Carter Adminstration and his noble intent of ‘help the poor’.  Clinton in 1995 strengthened Carters Bill, and MANDATED that Fm/Fm carry a portfolio of these subprime loans not to be less that 20%.  Then, when this Democrat house of cards comes falling down, you see Obama as the Great Saviour that will come to the rescue and fix it all.  Again, I repeat, he has NO intention of fixing anything.  His agenda is entirely different. YOu can read Economists all day long, and for every one you see that says this stimulus package MIGHT work, there are as many that say it will not.  SUffice it to say the CBO, their own indpenedent economic risk assessment agency, says it will not work. 

This is going to be a disaster of unmitigated proportions.  Following on the heels is the Global Poverty Act, another 848 Billion Dollars to the rest of the world.  We pay for it.  When in the hell did we annex Africa?  Then the EFCA, the final blow against this country. (almost).  There is more to come after this, but I will not get into it here.

THis country became the richest and most powerful nation in the world in 1/10th the time the rest of the world has been around.  We became what we were based on a Democracy and upon free market Capitalism.  Capitalism may have some faults…but on the whole, that is what made us who we were.  Now, Obama is creating European Socialism.  There are those that applaud this.  I am curoius as to why.  We have been SUPPORTING them and DEFENDING them ever since we became a great nation…because they cant even fend for themsevles.!  So, we want to emulate “less then”, rather then continue with a model that led to our greatness.  This too SHOULD Be obvious.  That it is not, befuddles me.

Posted by spinpolitico | 03/01/09, 09:02 PM EST

skinhead??  lol.  I am a Doctor.  I also own 3 businesses.  I am hardly a skinhead.

Posted by spinpolitico | 03/01/09, 11:36 PM EST

I’ve heard this argument about Franks and Dodd, and it’s a pretty good one, unless you haven’t done near the research about Phil Graham as well. If you don’t understand, or aren’t willing to admit, the roll he played in our financial collapse, from Enron and WorldCom to the position oil and fund speculators hold right now, then you’re not being straight. Again, there’s a lot of blame to go around.

Seeing Phil Graham standing next to McCain during his campaign, poised to lead our financial system, was a despicable site.

A doctor… seriously?... do you treat fags, and losers who ya know, just “don’t work hard enough” too?... or just people with country club memberships and nice stock portfolios (real or imagined)?

Any ideas on improving our healthcare system?... or just, ya know, screw me if I can’t afford $2300 a month to hold on to quality health insurance for my family? ‘Cause I’ll tell ya.. Jindal’s stupid remarks about “small government” staying out of our business, and in the next breath telling us that we just need to “teach everyone to take better care of themselves” was a hoot.

And then, he tells us, from where Katrina (ya know… a natural disaster) hit, that it’s appalling for those socialists to want to spend 150 million dollars on Volcano monitoring. “Cause, ya know… that’s a waste, right?

These are not opinions, they are stupidity, plainly. Could you vote for this guy, or for Palin, with a straight face?

ok.. now I’m ranting. Democrats have done some dumb things, for sure. But I’ve seen so many republican dinks and sleezes in recent years, that I have a hard time listening anymore, admittedly. You guys have a hard time of it now, and it seems the only thing on the table is to bash Obama. If this continues, and Obama makes even mild headway getting us out of this mess, it will be decades before you’re taken seriously again.

Posted by Mac | 03/02/09, 12:50 AM EST

Well, once again…one of the primary reasons that NO hospital is flush with an abundance of cash or profits, is because of the abuses of the system.  These abuses drive up the costs for everyone. 

It is ironic to note that when some welfare receipient is given free medical…(and illgal aliens…so i use the term “welfare loosely)...they abuse it.  Where you and I might not go into the emergency room unless we have a serious laceration, fracture, or systemic maladay…they flood the E.R with spinters, runny noses, etc etc.  THey will drag their kids in too…for ANYTHING.  Why?  Because for them it is free.  WHo pays for it?  The Government.  Using our tax dollars of course.  They pay a truncated rate, leaving the hospitals in the red. 

Further, socialized healthh care will not work in our society.  Not at all.  The reason why it wont work are incredlibly numerous to enumerate.  Nationalized banking will not work in this Society either.  Again, very complex reasonings as well.. 

But putting aside the intellectual discourse…lets just look at the obvious…the Government cannot even count VOTES!!  In fact, the Governement cannot do ANYTIHNG with competence, integrity, or in a spend thrift fashion.  If you can name me a single thing that the Government ever did with skill and aplomb, (other then it’s basic Constitutional duties), let me know. 

You are obviously for Socialism.  I am not.  There is really no grounds of commonality to hold much dialouge when the views are so divergent. 

The basic point of my prer=vious post remains the same:  “I offer no defense for Bush.  However, that said, his spending was due to several events that triggered it…2 wars, 9/11, Katrina.”.  There were outside influences that caused so much of the expenditure.  You cannot compare NOR justify 3 times the debt (and ultimately 9 times the debt) that Obama will incur, simply because someone before him might have fucked up in your opinion.  Another persons mistake, should not become YOUR excuse to exceed that same mistake. 

Again, we still speak as if this is an economic stimulus plan.  It is not.  So we speak at totally cross purposes.

Franks and Dodds were DIRECTLY responsible.  THey surely are not alone. But these departments were under THEIR watch, their control.  They were the FIRST to point their fingers every where else, and never once took any accountability for their actions.  (although they sure took the Fm/Fm campaign funds).

They are ALL a bunch of crooks.  The whole lot of them should be taken out of office, tried, and imprisoned. You still think in terms of a Saviour…while ignoring entirely you are being fattened up just to be flayed.  As i said…return to this in 18 months.  ONly time will show you.

Posted by spinpolitico | 03/02/09, 01:27 AM EST

LOL..you also made that typical innuendo about republican fat cats.  I have no idea where you Libs got such a notion, but it sure does blatantly illuminate not only the hypocrisy of the Libs, but also their blindness. 

The RICHEST people in this Society are either Democrats themselves, OR, Democrat supporters.

1. Rockefellers (3.2 trillion in pofits last year)
2. Kennedys
3. Kerry’s
4. Soros
5. Buffet
6. Winfrey
7. Gates
8 Clintons (pulled in a nice 330 million last year)
9. Rotchilds
10.  Pelosi owns serval HUGE vineyards in California, and spends $60,000 a day in taxpayers money to fly her SECOND taxpayer paid for jetliner back and forth.  NO other Speaker has ever done so.  Not only are the fat cats Democrats…they blanatly flaunt their wealth, their abuses of our money, while giving speeches about helping the poor!  If they cared so much about the poor…i’d like to see any ONE of them donate THEIR money to do so…They have PLENTY of it.  Everytime they open their mouth with their “brotherly-love” morality…they themsevles are exempt…what they mean is that YOU shoudl pay for others. YOU shoudl pay for this and that…while they continue to rape and pillage.

Posted by spinpolitico | 03/02/09, 01:34 AM EST

Damn… we’re stubborn. You’re not even close about the richest folks. Look at the Forbes 400 and see what the reality is.

‘sides… you’re not getting it (what I’d say is a Republican “typical innuendo”)... it’s not about how much money you have, it’s about your attitude… entirely. There ARE a bunch of folks abusing ALL of our programs… that’s a weak argument for giving up.

So, if ALL our politicians are crooks, what do we do? If they’re all the same, then thank goodness we hired a nice, smart guy that people all over the world like, instead of another tight ass old lying white guy… right? I mean, if it’s all the same, then we can at least have people like and respect us again.

Posted by Mac | 03/02/09, 02:08 AM EST

Well, in regards to likable, I thought the same thing.  There is no discounting the fact that to the Liberals, he is YOUR Ronald Regan. Personally, I like him..as a neighbor.  He would be fun to pal around with.  That other nations like him is irrelevant to me.  They like him because he is handing our country over to them, to the tune of 848 Billion dollars via the Global Poverty Act, not to mention concessions to the U.N. (they have really demonsrated they like us, huh?)...but Obama is going to let them call a lot of shots for us. 

He is the most dangerous threat to our soveriengty, our way of life, and to this country that could possibly ever be conceived.  His likability is not an issue. His politics are.  AS I said, while there are those that salivate for Socialism…it is NOT socialism that enabled the US to bypass the rest of the world like a freight-train. So he regresses, not progesses.  But there is a reason why he is doing so, and it has NOTHING to do with you, me, the poor, the hapless, or anyone at all.  It has everything to do with absolute power by the Elitist.  He is pushig for a One World Government, with his hands on the reins.  He is seeking autoritative totalatarianism, were we will be essentially serfs to a ruling class.  YOu will be totally controlled, totally monitored, and you will have NO choice but to obey.  His rhetoric (which will accompany his Socialized Medicine and EFCA; while eroding the 1st and 2nd amendments), will usher in the Federal ID chips.  His new 645 billion computer systems will monitor it.  It will be done under the prose of “your protection”.  The rhetoric will be glorious…just like the Patriot Act was…(which in essence set up a KGB police state).  It is funny how the most noble sounding bills are the must subversive.  If you want to know what is BAD for this country, it can be gauged soley by how noble it sounds. 

Obama’s rhetoric is totally predicatble, once you understand his intent.  He is transparent.  He is a blight upon this country.  He IS the enemy within. You will see. 

I am still perplexed by blind liberals that do not question certain obvious machinations.

1.  IF this was an economic stimulus bill, how in the hell could they put a Bill of such sweeping magnitutde together (which such verbosity and legalese) in a mere 4 days?  This does not raise a question in your mind?

2.  Why is it that they engineered things in such a manner that no one could actually READ the bill, especially, as Obama says…“this is a diaster of unprecedented proportions”.  Should not such a disater that may befall us at least have more then 4 days to be put together, and, at least the ability to be read over the weekend when he knew full well he was not going to sign it until the following Tuesday?  Hmmm.. 

3.  In the midst of the chaos and mindset that surely must accompany a “Crises of unprecedented proportions”, how is it that he also had the presence of mind to decide to take over the Census Bureau?  Do you have any idea the consequence of that move?  Now, you may applaud the fact that they have essentially created (or in the process of creating) a 1 party system.  I am not.

4.  Under the duress of a “crisis”, one does not come out of Chambers looking like she just had 32 orgasms riding a Sybian with a shit eating grin on her face of elation.  Why was Nancy so happy?  Because they FORCED this thru, unread, unimpeded.  Obama signed YOUR death warrant in essence. 

I am not sure if this “embedding” works…if it does, I urge you to take 3 minutes and watch and listen.  Maybe then you can appreciate WHY we had a Constitution. and just how far we have strayed from what we were meant to be, and from what we are.

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Posted by spinpoltico | 03/02/09, 02:32 AM EST

Oh well… I thought we were talking about issues. They’re ALL crooks, and ALL guilty, but Obama is “the most dangerous threat to our soveriengty, our way of life, and to
this country that could possibly ever be conceived.”? If out of all the crap going on, you see Barack as “the enemy within”... you’re just a frustrated idiot.

out.

Posted by Mac | 03/02/09, 02:57 AM EST

YOu really should be a member of BOTH sides of the fence.  When it came time to vote, I read entirely everything McCain had to say, and I was also enrolled at Obama’s site, and read everything he had to say.  It was rather remarkable how Obama constructed his site to “hide the pain”. His unbeleivable taxes were there, they were just spread out in the most unlikely places, only a few of them under “Taxes”.  I had to PASTE information right from his own site to other Liberals that were there espousing maniacal falsehoods.  Most of his voters never even read Obama.

McCains site was RIFE with Obamanites coming in and bashing.  Obama’s site was censored, and not too much of that got by.  All liberal sites are censored it seems.  No Republican sites are.  Hmmm.  I had Huffingtron Post, Daily Kos, and Alaskan Dispatch write scathing articles about me…however, I was censored to making any reply and setting the record straight.  Alaskan Dispatch allowed me, and after getting a reply, invited me to write for their Newspaper. 

I made ONE post on Obama’s site.  It was a question.  A 3 part question.  It was stated EXACTLY as shown below:

1.  Why do you support the Global Poverty Act?
2.  Why do you support the EFCA?
3.  Why do you support the Fairness Doctrine?

That was it.  No rancor, no crudeness.  I was sent a letter:  “We will not answer questions that are not related to policies stated on our site.  If you persist in such inquiries, you will be banned from the site”.

hmmm.

I always though Ann Coulture was a bit of right winged nut when she said…“you cannot talk to a Liberal”.  I encouraged my people to do so.  After being a member at the Daily Kos, i have come to the same conclusion she has.  It is hard for me to beleive that she is right, but damn…she is!

Ironically…the BEST news you will find about our country, is from Pravda.  I dont even bother with our news anymore…it is the most censored, twisted, distortive garbage their is.  There are only 2 newscasters anymore worth a damn.  Lou Dobbs and Neil Cavuto.  One from a Liberal site (CNN), one from a Conservative site (FOX). The rest is pure spin…pure garbage.  You really have to DIG and DIG to find any truth anymore.

Another tidbit for you.  Not only is Obama NOT overthrowing the Patriot Act…he added to it!  This is why now 30 states have filed a resolution for Sovereingty.  (both Blue and Red)  Funny you have never heard of this on the News, is it not?  The filing and documents can be found on a .gov website.  But, since Obama repealed the long standing Warner Act, giving Federal Control over declaring martial law and superceding the States rights…there has been one hell of an uproar.  In conjunction with this, military warfare has been changed totally…Camp Pendleton and many other bases have been directed to practice Urban Warfare in America.  Not training in America…AGAINST Americans.  While this is beingn conducted, there are 800 CIVILIAN internment and labor camps being built. Ther are military personnel being BLOCKED and impeded in their lawsuits against Obama.  There is so much shit going on, you truly have no idea.

Posted by spinpolitico | 03/02/09, 03:03 AM EST

Seems you cannot overcome that juvenile impulse of name calling.  I find that remarkable tt=hat one could possess such a lacking of social decorum and intellect.  I wonder what that mouth must be like in person.  I get the impression you could not piossibly be more then 22 or so, so obviously brought up in a time when “manners” went out the window, along with work ethic and morality.

The human tongue weighs a mere six ounces, and I have never met a liberal that can manage to muster up the neurosynaptic energy to control it. 

OUT!

Posted by spinpoltico | 03/02/09, 03:07 AM EST

See, in the face of what shoudl be a REASONABLE question for anyone to consider…all you can do is what every other liberal does…NOT ANSWER, and start with the name calling and other obfuscations.  They serve only to ameliorate your own anxieties if your pacifier should be taken away.  Ignorance is the biggest curse of all.

Posted by spinpolitco | 03/02/09, 03:10 AM EST

Sorry… okok… you’re NOT an idiot.

Wait.. I just read your post about Ann Coulter and “800
CIVILIAN internment and labor camps being built”...

yep.. we’re good.

Posted by Mac | 03/02/09, 03:18 AM EST

1.  IF this was an economic stimulus bill, how in the hell could they put a Bill of such sweeping magnitutde together (which such verbosity and legalese) in a mere 4 days?  This does not raise a question in your mind?

2.  Why is it that they engineered things in such a manner that no one could actually READ the bill, especially, as Obama says…“this is a diaster of unprecedented proportions”.  Should not such a disater that may befall us at least have more then 4 days to be put together, and, at least the ability to be read over the weekend when he knew full well he was not going to sign it until the following Tuesday?  Hmmm.. 

3.  In the midst of the chaos and mindset that surely must accompany a “Crises of unprecedented proportions”, how is it that he also had the presence of mind to decide to take over the Census Bureau?  Do you have any idea the consequence of that move?  Now, you may applaud the fact that they have essentially created (or in the process of creating) a 1 party system.  I am not.

4.  Under the duress of a “crisis”, one does not come out of Chambers looking like she just had 32 orgasms riding a Sybian with a shit eating grin on her face of elation.  Why was Nancy so happy?  Because they FORCED this thru, unread, unimpeded.  Obama signed YOUR death warrant in essence.

The TRUTH of the matter is, we have basically corrupt criminals running our Government, and they ALL should be imprisoned for embezzelment, misappropriation of funds, and a multitude of crimes against the people.  THEY have robbed YOUR social security.  Did you fail to pay your taxes?  Did you fail to do ‘the right thing’?  If you are negligent, what befalls you?  Why aren’t they held accountable to the same standards?  And the worst of the worst have been the Liberals.  Not because they are more crooked, or have stolen more, or been more negligent in carrying out the mandate accorded them…but because they are hypocrits of the most egregious sort.  Because they campagain on behalf of the poor, the illegal, the downtrodden, the uneducated…while they themselves vote themselves an annual raise, fly around on taxpayer paid for jets (with a fuel cost of $60,000/DAY)...(btw, the ONLY speaker of the house to EVER do so).

Ever see a Nancy Pelosi Foundation for the Poor?  Why not?  She makes millions of dollars annually off her corporate vineyards.  The list goes on and on…despicable hypocrits that thrive on the brain dead such as yourself.

Posted by spinpoltico | 03/02/09, 03:42 AM EST

Last I checked, “rich people” payed more taxes and owned businesses that employed people. Fact of the matter is that we need “rich people.” Period.
And before I get dogpiled, I am not rich, not even in the loosest sense of the word. Last year I made approximately $30,000. With that said, I work hard for my money and I do not appreciate the .gov giving it away to some bum who will not get off his/her butt and get a job. Nor do I want to bail out some yahoo that was too dumb to read the fine print in his/her adjustable rate mortgage.

Posted by C. Smith | 03/03/09, 09:43 PM EST

Does anyone really think that “rich people” are in jeopardy? Look at Spins comment #25 about the “labor camps”... is that where the socialists are gonna lock up all the rich people?

Dude, if you’re making 30 g’s a year… most of the folks you seem to be arguing for, think you’re a deadbeat. So.. good job. Maybe they’ll let you hang with them someday, huh?

Is that it?... if you go to bat for rich folks, maybe you can pretend to be one one day?  ‘Cause you bitch and bitch about the “bums” getting help with “your money” but I’m not hearing anything about the rich as hell folks who are getting billions of “your money” even though they’re already millionaires many times over. Remember them?... the folks running big companies into the ground, while giving themselves huge bonuses… with “your money”... while laying a bunch of people who work an honest 40 hours week, and make more money than 30 g’s /yr. btw.

Seriously… giving AIG another 30 billion dollars this month is ok…. no comments about that… but you’re pissed about some “bum” getting another wekk or two’s worth of unemployment benefits?

Freaky man… some guy making 30 g’s a year, blindly defending the idea of protecting rich people from the government… when the government isn’t threatening them, in any way.

Oh, and… there’s “rich people” and there’s “employed people”?... is that like the difference between “work” and “a job”?

Posted by Mac | 03/03/09, 10:54 PM EST

People have a funny notion of what rich is sometimes.  If a person is making $60,000/yr living in Wyoming, they are living VERY well.  I make $250,000 living in Southern California.  It is barely above poverty level.

1.  subtract:  $87,000 for IRS
2.  subract: $17,000 FTB
3.  subtract:  $7,000 FICA (appx)

Net:  $139,000

Avg Price of home:  $776,000
Avg Association Dues:  $600/mo
Avg Meelo Roos (a bullshit California tax):  $12,500 (on avg house, or 1.6%)

Say you have an AVERAGE house, monthly payment of:

$4,500
+1,600 association and meelo roos

subtract another $73,000.00
minus another 12,000 (property taxes)

Gross:  $54,000

take out food, the higest gasoline and utilities in the nation, all the other expenses that go along with living…one is left with “disposble income” (clothes, hygeine, vacation, entertainment, investment income) of about 20-25,000 per year.  Granted, this does leave some money left over to invest or vacation upon, which is much better then many folks have it…BUT, it is a FAR FAR cry from rich.

Posted by spinpolitico | 03/03/09, 11:53 PM EST

spin

enough of your hatred.  Just because you don’t believe in equal rights for all Americans doesn’t make it right.  People like you should keep their mouths shut.  This would be a much better world.  Besides it would be nice if you would come up with your own arguments for a change, instead of quoting the Limbaugh’s of the world.  The arguments they bring up are not even legit.  They just depend on dumb asses like yourself to run around repeating them.  No serious republican actually thinks Obama is a Socialist.  Idiots like yourself are being used by the republicans to spread the propaganda.  Congrats you are a sheep.  How does it feel??????

Posted by DG in NJ | 03/04/09, 06:03 AM EST

“Personally, I think ALL the conservatives just ought to leave this country. “


You have my blessing, do you all need help packing? Of course after the last 8 years that would mean most if not all of the Republicans will be staying. Republicans = conservatism….............NO. We have now seen it’s not how much you spend it’s where you spend it. Where did all the money go the last 8 years? Certainly not to anyplace that helped this country. Yes I agree all conservatives should leave, and take the Republicans with you.

Posted by C.E.P. in Wi | 03/04/09, 07:32 AM EST

If you had an ounce of honesty, you would stop calling names and would stop calling everyone Rush clones, just because they are not parroting your kool-aid induced talking points.  You would instead address the questions and points that are being expressed so clearly that even a child should be able to understand.  Spin and others expend a lot of effort trying to get past your indoctrination. 

We want what is best for everyone.  That does not include stealing from the producers, and giving it to the losers and lazy.  An by losers, I mean failing companies and banks.  These same rich you hate so much are the very ones you are so eager to give our great grandchildrens money.  These rich auto company fat cats are laughing at you as you fill their and the unions pockets with money.  You sit here and decry the rich, and call us names while we try to keep you from bankrupting the country to make them even richer.

What a sad sad joke.

Posted by Chris D in Left Coast | 03/04/09, 09:03 AM EST

are DG and CEP lovers?  They are at least united in their ignorance, and like all these narcotized idiots, they can never produce a single fact, nor can they address a single comment that was made. 

#1.  I suggest you look at the defintion of “socialism”.  I further suggest you actually LISTEN to the news every now and then when they are speaking of “nationalized healhcare”..Hello dingbat…thats “socialism”.

#2.  I don’t espouse Rush, I don’t even listen to Rush.  I can THINK for myself, which seemingly is an ability you have an egregious lacking of.

#3.  I posed 3 questions that I asked for “consideration of”.  They were not.  I doubt if they were even read.  Certainly they were never responsded to.  Although I always thought Ann Couture was a bit out of her mind when she said…“you cannot talk to a liberal”; now I realize she had a better understanding of Liberals then I had.  I see her point entirely now. 

#4.  Presumably, the way you vote is probably reflected in the way to read and think.  THis is problematic.  A Voter really shoudl have an IQ greater then a nematode, and should also be a taxpayer.

#5.  Are you so misguided in your thought process as to think “equal rights” translates into “everyone should be equal”?  I beleive in equal rights.  YOu have the right to pursue your own happiness and success.  You do not have the right to take from me to make up for your inability to get off your ass.  If there are impediments to someone’s right to freely pursue their own levels…then they should have those civil rights.  Things such as discrimination, etc etc…should NOT exist.  But we are NOT all equal.  Not everyone has the capacity to be a Neurosurgeon.  Not everyone is a Mathematician.  Not everyone has mechanical aptitude.  Everyone has the right to become the best they can be…but that does NOT mean that everyone IS the best. 

6.  I don’t live to support you, your drug habits, your disease, your family, your illnesses…or whatever may befall another.  I have my own family to care for.  Do you give a shit about them?  If my Dad’s medical bills overburden me (since he had a stroke), do you want your money taken from you to help my Dad?  I dont ask for your money, it is not your responsibility.  This is what responsbility is….“save your money for a rainy day, you never know what might befall you”.  “work hard”.  “earn your way”..  Axioms by which self-determined responsible people grew up with. 

You call me names because I don’t care to share what i have earned..I am selfish because I wish to keep the fruits of my own labor?  If I am selfish in wanting to keep what I earn, then what are those that want to take it??  If it is a virtue to give, what is it to take?  If I am to feel guilt over my success, does happiness then come from failure? 

You are one misguided cretin.

Posted by spinplolitico | 03/04/09, 10:02 AM EST

My concern is not whether or not Obama is a Socialist.  He is.  I don’t really care about that.  What I do CARE ABOUT is the fact he wants a dictatorship at the expense of Democracy.  Since apparently you are not very well read..I will provide you a link to “The Communist Party, USA”. They are DELIGHTED with Obama. And at their website, you can read the Communist Plan to “take over America”.  I will post that plan here:

First, the link:  http://www.cpusa.org/article/archive/3/

1.  Immediate Relief

1.1 A moratorium on foreclosures and evictions.

1.2 Reset mortgages so payments are affordable.

1.3 No bailouts for banks.

1.4 Extend unemployment compensation, increase payments and eligibility.

1.5 Increase food stamps, WIC, children’s health ins., low income energy assistance.

1.6 Assist state and local governments.

1.7 Fund “ready-to-go” infrastructure projects.


2.  A Peacetime, Green Jobs Economy for All

2.1 Enact massive public works.

2.2 Make existing buildings energy efficient.

2.3 Construct new schools, affordable housing, mass transit and bridges.

2.4 Major clean, affordable energy dvpt project for solar, wind, and biomass.

2.5 Program to cut greenhouse gas emissions, environmental cleanup.

2.6 Restore energy regulation and public ownership of utilities.

2.7 Enact the Employee Free Choice Act.

2.8 Enact HR 676, US National Health Insurance Act, single payer.

2.9 Fund public education, pre-school through higher and technical.

2.10 No privatization of Social Security or Medicare.

2.11 Expand and improve SS & Medicare benefits.


3.  Restore Civil Rights, Bill of Rights, Separation of Powers

3.1 Restore Civil Rights Act enforcement, affirmative action.

3.2 Outlaw hate crimes.

3.3 Preserve Roe v Wade.

3.4 Immigration reform with path to citizenship, no militarization of borders.

3.5 No exploitative guest worker programs.

3.6 No human being is illegal.

3.7 Repeal the Patriot Act.

3.8 Investigate and prosecute Bush administration violations.

3.9 Expand voting rights.

3.10 Enact publicly financed elections.

3.11 Same-day registration.

3.12 Voting rights for ex-felons.

3.13 Restore Fairness Doctrine in media.


4.  Strength through Peace

4.1 Withdraw US troops from Iraq with no bases or US corporations left behind.

4.2 Full care for returning veterans.

4.3 No war on Iran.

4.4 No expansion of troops in Afghanistan.

4.5 Assistance to Iraq to rebuild Iraq.

4.6 New foreign policy of diplomacy, respect for all nations.

4.7 Renew commitment to UN.

4.8 End trade policies that enrich corporations and destroy jobs.

4.9 Ratify Kyoto Treaty and other climate change agreements.

4.10 Enforce nuclear non-proliferation.

4.11 Work to abolish nuclear weapons.

4.12 Cut Pentagon spending in half.

4.13 Close down US bases around the world.

Check the first two items off the list.

The $787B stimulus package signed into law February 13 by President Obama took care of several items on the list:

1.4 Extend unemployment compensation, increase payments and eligibility.

1.5 Increase food stamps, WIC, children’s health ins., low income energy assistance.

1.6 Assist state and local governments.

1.7 Fund “ready-to-go” infrastructure projects.

2.1 Enact massive public works.

2.2 Make existing buildings energy efficient.

2.3 Construct new schools, affordable housing, mass transit and bridges.

2.4 Major clean, affordable energy dvpt project for solar, wind, and biomass.

2.5 Program to cut greenhouse gas emissions, environmental cleanup.

Whoever wrote the stimulus bill with his right hand almost seems to have had the CPUSA’s list in his left hand.  Check.  Check.  And checkmate.

Several items on CPUSA’s list are already law or policy, or simply amount to not undoing something.  I’m not sure why they are on the list, other than to say they should be strengthened or spending on them should be increased.  Here are the ones I think are already taken care of.

2.9 Fund public education, pre-school through higher and technical.

2.10 No privatization of Social Security or Medicare.

2.11 Expand and improve SS & Medicare benefits.

3.1 Restore Civil Rights Act enforcement, affirmative action.

3.2 Outlaw hate crimes.

3.3 Preserve Roe v Wade.

3.10 Enact publicly financed elections.

4.2 Full care for returning veterans.

4.3 No war on Iran.

About 90% of K-12 education is already government run.  But President Obama wants to extend it.  It’s not enough that the indoctrination starts at age five; Obama wants it to start at birth.  “Cradle to cubicle”, Charles Krauthammer calls it.  Someone also made sure that no part of the $66B of the stimulus going to education would go to private schools.


“No recipient . . . shall use such funds to provide financial assistance to students to attend private elementary or secondary schools.”  As quoted in the Wall Street Journal .

Roe v Wade has been intact and indeed expanded and strengthened since 1973.  President Obama just issued a Presidential Memorandum to reinstate the “Mexico Policy,” which allows US government funds to be used “to pay for the performance of abortions ... or to motivate or coerce any person to practice abortions” anywhere in the world.  And now he plans to coerce doctors to provide abortions right here in the US .

On the foreign policy front, I think we can say President Obama has a “new foreign policy of diplomacy, respect for all nations.”  He sent a badminton team to Iran.  He congratulated Hugo Chavez on his move to become President-for-life, he’s easing tensions with Syria, etc.  President Obama also raised the status of UN Ambassador to Cabinet level.  I think we can check items 4.6 and 4.7 off the list.

We’re making good progress.  Here are the remaining items.

1.3 No bailouts for banks.

2.6 Restore energy regulation and public ownership of utilities.

2.7 Enact the Employee Free Choice Act.

2.8 Enact HR 676, US National Health Insurance Act, single payer.

3.4 Immigration reform with path to citizenship, no militarization of borders.

3.5 No exploitative guest worker programs.

3.6 No human being is illegal.

3.7 Repeal the Patriot Act.

3.8 Investigate and prosecute Bush administration violations.

3.9 Expand voting rights.

3.11 Same-day registration.

3.12 Voting rights for ex-felons.

3.13 Restore Fairness Doctrine in media.

4.1 Withdraw US troops from Iraq with no bases or US corporations left behind.

4.4 No expansion of troops in Afghanistan.

4.5 Assistance to Iraq to rebuild Iraq.

4.8 End trade policies that enrich corporations and destroy jobs.

4.9 Ratify Kyoto Treaty and other climate change agreements.

4.10 Enforce nuclear non-proliferation.

4.11 Work to abolish nuclear weapons.

4.12 Cut Pentagon spending in half.

4.13 Close down US bases around the world.

In almost all the remaining items, President Obama or Democrats in the various states are busy doing what they can (e.g., same-day registration, letting felons vote).  President Obama has already asked for a 10% cut in Pentagon spending and Barney Frank asked for 25%.  Give it time; we’ll get there.

(Space limits a full discussion of each line item and how it is being implemented.  I’ll leave that as an exercise for the reader.)

Only two items on the whole list appear to be contradicted.

1.3 No bailouts for banks.

4.4 No expansion of troops in Afghanistan.

Frankly, I’m suspicious about the bailout of banks.  Sure, they’re being “bailed out,” if you call becoming an indentured servant being bailed out of bankruptcy jail.  The banks are now being told how to run their businesses, how much they can make in bonuses, where to have their meetings (e.g., not Las Vegas), and how to get there (not private jets).

In fact, many are, or will be, nationalized.  I think we can, effectively, scratch item 1.3 off our list.

So what’s the score?  Of 44 items on the CPUSA’s list,

22 are already enacted.
21 are in work.
1 is being violated.

Halfway there gets me my Bingo.  Pretty good for being in office just one month.  Heck, at this pace, the CPUSA will have to come up with another list by summer.

Only one item out of 44 is being violated: Obama is sending more troops to Afghanistan.  He’s adding 17,000 on top of the 30,000 already there .

Funny, that’s the only thing Bill Ayers, Mr. “Small ‘c’ communist” and terrorist bomber, could find fault with in President Obama term of office so far.

What’s up with that?  I guess the easy explanation is that Obama doesn’t want to go against his generals’ wishes right out of the chute.  There is a war going on, you know.  Some generals asked for 30,000 troops; Obama gave them 17,000.

I also have another suspicion.  I think Obama really, really wants to get Osama bin Laden.  He’s even willing to lose Pakistan, with its nukes, to Taliban and jihadi warlords if that’s what it takes.  Not that I think Obama cares all that much about the War on Terror.  But can you imagine the press he’d get, bagging the A-Number-One 9/11 terrorist after Bush let him slip away for eight years?  I admit it’s just a guess.

But we’re making good progress: halfway there in just one month.  Be patient, comrades.  As CPUSA’s National Chair, Sam Webb, was quoted in the People’s Weekly World ,

Posted by spinpolitico | 03/04/09, 10:16 AM EST

Sam Webss quote:  “The ‘biggest challenge’ now, he told the meeting, is to ‘resist efforts by reaction and some on the left’ to advocate a break in the coalition that elected Obama and is now led by him. ‘We will have our differences but they have to be handled so as not to break the overall unity,’ he said.”

“President Obama is leading our coalition.  Unite behind him.” 

You, on the other hand,  have nothing to lose but your mind, and your life savings.

Posted by spinpolitico | 03/04/09, 10:20 AM EST

Wow….38 comments.  You really started an uproar Pauly.
You must have quite the loyal following to get 38 responses.  oh…..it looks like 37 of them oppose your rhetoric.  So besides your butt buddy Carvel…you don’t have a following.  You should be proud of all that you’ve accomplished in your career.  38 comments.
I get more comments on my blog every hour.  You may want to rethink your politico Pauly….you’d be a looser on anyone’s terms….well except the DCCC and you’re a feature writer here.  This site must get 50 hits a day.
WOW!  Powerful!  Guess we should give you a radio show with equal time as Rush….  I’m sure advertisers would love to hook up with someone like you that gets 38 comments.  he…he…he….you’d be like Baldwin when he tried radio….“Okay we’ll take a caller….go ahead and call in now…..anybody….anyone….please call in…well lets go to commercial and see if we can’t get someone to call in” 
Gotta love the DCCC for the Powerhouse Commentary….ar..ar..ar…

Posted by Kim in Colorado | 03/04/09, 10:45 AM EST

Thanks for the update on Republican Congresswoman Michele Bachmann.  I’d never heard of her.  Wow, she’s smart, attractive and right on point.  I’ll send her some money this weekend to help her campaign.  I’m sorry that I’m not in her district.  We need more people like her.  After the democrats kill the rich people that are paying for the rest of us to enjoy the life we live, I can’t imagine what we’ll do.  I do wish we had more rich people.  Without them, most of us would pay much higher taxes.

Posted by Timothy K. Palmer in Virginia | 03/04/09, 01:25 PM EST

All I can say is that I am shocked that the comments section of this site isn’t moderated so as to exclude the opinions of those who disagree with the Democratic agenda of this site.  That’s the usual SOP for Democratic propaganda sites like this one. 

That distinction isnt isolated to just web sites. Just look at MSNBC, Rachel Maddox, Keith Obermann, these folks aren’t news people. They’re propagandists.  I dont have a problem with them expressing their opinion and arguing your point. I dont agree with them 9/10ths of the time but they have a right to speak their mind, just like I have a right to speak mine.  (And change the channel)

I do take issue with them pretending to be news reporters/new anchors though. I dont like that these “shows” act like they are a news program that objectively reports the news when in fact their sole purpose is to further an agenda. Goebbels and Tokyo Rose would be proud. These people wouldn’t know “objectivity” or “deductive reasoning” if it flew across the room and bit them on the forehead.

Posted by Dave in Maryland | 03/04/09, 04:25 PM EST

Dave:

This is the ONLY liberal site I have ever been too that did not censor any voice of dissention.  Hence, it is my beleif that this site is set up to discover WHO the dissenters are.  Consider:  Everything Obama is doing is to have EVERY person totally KNOWN and under HIS control.  This is the reason for the 645 billion dollar health care computer systems…the Federal ID cards…taking over the Census Bureau…The Fairness Doctrine..etc.  Welcome to the New World Order.

Posted by spinpolitico | 03/04/09, 06:03 PM EST

So… everything… even this web page… is fulfilling Obama’s *agenda*, which is to “have EVERY person totally KNOWN and under HIS control”. You’re joking, aren’t you? We’re being watched by socialists right now… on this web page… but the Patriot Act is ok.. and a GOOD THING?

Again, Politico… BOO!

Just want to remind everyone here… it IS possible to disagree, and collaborate… even with far reaching views, withOUT this kind of pathetic, childish Paranoia.

Jesus.. if you really believe this, get medication. If you don’t, and are just using it to fight… have some class.

Nobody’s… watching you right now, I guarantee it. Nobody cares. Views as far right reaching as yours… LOST. Your country voted you out! Why don’t you take action in a real way, instead of all the psycho-drama.

It wasn’t just Barack Obama that won in November, it was sensible, classy, frank communication… about *important* things. *Your own party* is to blame for your new found minority status.

Posted by Mac | 03/04/09, 06:27 PM EST

Noticve how Obama is NOT replealing the Patriot Act? That was the number request over at change.org.  Hmm.  NOt only is he NOT going to repeal the Patriot Act, he overturned the Warner Act, thus enabling the Feds to supercede State Authority in declaring martial law.  I beleive the Bill is H.R. 5122 (i could be worng, that is just what memory serves me)  read it sometime. 

Further…I don;t know why you guys keep bringing up Bush.  Have you ever heard me defend Bush?  Have you ever heard me say that the prevoious adminstration was good?  In fact, have you ever heard me say ANY politician is good?  They are ALL corrupt, more corrupt then you can even imagine, or care to even consider.

And no, he SPEAKS a god game, no doubt…he is the BEST orator ever, even better then Clinton.  He is full of bullshit, obfuscation, and hidden agenda.  Every con artist is brilliant, and good at convincing others…otherwise, the could not BE a con artist.  Sorry to say Mac, YOU are the one that should lay off the Twinkies or whatever it is that clouds your reason.

He has already LIED about gun control. He has already LIED about The Fairness Doctrine.  Those are just outright bold faced lies.  He has cleverly re-worded what one can expect from teh Stimulus Package..(1)..”..and this will create 3.5 to 4 million NEW jobs within the next year”...(2)...“errrrrrrr..this will create or SAVE 3.5-4 million new jobs in the next year”!  Brilliant!!  This way, if not ONE SINGLE new job is created, he can come back and say…“see, you kept your job because of me”!!  lol…Oh really, PROVE IT?  It is totally unverifiable, and totally predicatable thing for him to com eback and say. 

There is NO paranoia whatsoever Mac.  You are just not very learned.  He does not hide that ALL medical records will be stored on a central database.  Physicians whom used to be able to hold meidical infomration in CONFIDENCE, will now be fined for non-compliance (once this passes of course).  I would paste you links for the NY Times, Washington Post, and other sources, but I know you dont bother to read any links I provide. 

He does not hide in the least his fervent desire to push the EFCA.  We know what Unions have done to this country, and how corrupt they are, and how they have outlived their usefulness…BUT..Obama wants EVERY company and EVERY employee UNIONIZED, and the process will be under Federal Arbitration.  No Secret Ballot.  No negotiation…the “card check”.  It is his hope to have 105 million disenfranchsed workers unionied, with their Federal ID card.  Fact.

It is a fact that even though he printed up pamplhets that he used on his campaign specifically stating..“i will not touch your 2nd Amendment rights…that he then on his staff those that have always heavly pushed for gun bans. It is no secret that he is re-writing the gun registration laws, while also increasing the price of registration and ammunition.  It is no secret that in the language he is going to be using in order to get a gun registered (under penalty of Federal Prosecution for any falsification), that this will be the basis to decline all applicants, once the Medical Database is in -place to check on compliancy.  It ALL has intent, meaning, and is all interlaced.  You look at the peices, and cannot even comprehend the whole. And since you seemingly lack that comprehensive perspective of ALL the shit that is interwtining, and its historical precedents.

And, as I seemingly must repeat to you over and over (which illustates just how truncated your comprehension is), I am neither Right nor Left.  I think the whole lot of them shoudl be hauled out of the houses and thrown in jail..The republicans are just as corrupt the democrats.  I just happen to find the Democrats more loathesome because of their unmitigated hypoprcisy.  “The Party for the Poor”, when they themselves only INCREASE their lifestyles, fly around on their taxpayer paid for personal jets, all, have major corporations THEY own, all have never ONCE in their life made some personal sacrifice for those that supposedly they hold dear…etc etc.  They are despicable.

I’m not a minority, i was never in the race. In fact, I am quickly finding myself in the majority, because MOST people are sick of politics, sick of the system, sick of the corruption.

Posted by spinpolitico | 03/04/09, 07:03 PM EST

I voted for Obama, and now, after ignoring my conservative friends about him being a socialist, I now see how his agenda is unfolding. I am appalled and enraged. Never did I think his message of “change” meant to tear down our country’s greatness to put into place this crippling, failed philosophy of socialism. Cuba, Russia, most of Europe - America is headed for the same sink hole. Never again. I feel like a fool, thinking Obama really wanted to help America achieve prosperity and happiness for its people. He is showing he is clueless about anything except his own personal agenda.

My parents voted for Reagan, and now I think that’s what our country needs. No socialism, which is misery and strips all incentive and joy from people. I’m never voting Democrat again.

Posted by Sam O'Hara in California | 03/04/09, 08:20 PM EST

Sam, you are beginning to see the light.  I don’t wish to demean you in any way, but I suspect you never really studied the candidates in-depth before voting.  Obama was compelling, and managed to beguile millions.  His narcotizing soothing baritone made permissable his meteoric rise, admist a sewage of slumlords, communists, terrorists sympathizers, corrupt Illionis politician, and scum swirling about his ankles that woudl have made totally impossible for someone in anyone else’s skin to possible hold his office. 

I spent 9 weeks last September in Socialist Eastern Europe countries.  Its appalling.  You can always tell which is the most desirable place to live by which way a countries doors are swinging.  No one from teh US has been seeking to immigate into Romania, Ukraine, Moldova, etc etc. But now, with the U.S. swinging the way it is, people and businesses want OUT of this cesspool.  What Mac, and most of these Liberal Obamanites fail to understand, that there is something MUCH more pernicious at stake than just Socialism versus Capitalism.  There has NEVER been any doubt that Obama was a Socialist, all one had to do was read his website of policies when he was running his campaign.  What people are NOT seeing is the fact he is totally trying to ‘take-over’ America.  This is a battle bewteen Democracy and Dictatorship. 

He is engineering things in such a way that there will in essence only be a one-party system of Power, connected to a Global Power that America and England lead…and he is sitting at the to of the heap.  YOu will have no power, no say, no freedom, no control of your personal life.  Does it sound like imprisonment when he speaks?  Well of course not…what do you think he is going to say:  “I have ulterior motives and soon you will all be under my control”!  Not likely.  It requires more then just looking at the facts, it requires seeing how all the facts interrelate and how those interrelationships are set into historical precedence.  But, on the immediate:

1.  The Global Poverty Act.  read it.  It is appalling.  It makes the US bow down to the United Nations (who hate us) while obligating us to 848 billion dollars over the next 10 years, while at the same time making us participate in a Global Economy which will carry its own taxes upon us (as well as other loss of freedoms).

2.  The EFCA (Employees Free Choise Act), which is anything but free choice.  One thing I pointed out earlier (which applies to ALL legistlation, even the Patriot Act)...the more noble it sounds, the more iinsidious it is.  They always try to “market” and “sell” to the people.  If a noble sounding Bill is ever presented…READ IT LIKE A HAWK!  The EFCA is designed to Unionize EVERY COMPANY in this country with 3 or more employees.  No secret ballot.  No negotiation.  A company will have 120 days to comply,and if they fail to comply, a FEDERAL Arbitration will transpire who’s ruling is irreversible. 

3.  BTW, Biden wanted a “secret, voice only vote” on the GLobal Poverty Act.  hmmm. 

4.  The Medical Reform, (via a national computer system).  You really have NO IDEA how far-reaching and complex this whole scam is.  There is so much research available in this…i highly suggest you delve into it.  The AMA, The New York Times (itself a liberal newspaper), The Washigton Post (again, a liberal magazine)..The Heritage Foundation, American Thinker.  This is a huge uproar of protest.  When you understand all the ramifications of this idea…you will be infuriated.  Forgetting for the moment all the ramifications outside the medical field itself, medical treatment will be on a cost-effective basis.  Let us say you are 65 years old and slip into renal failure and need some dialysis.  The dialysis would save your life.  Forget it, you are going to die.  You will not get dialysis, it will be deemed too expensive a treatment considering your age.  This is a FACT btw, not a supposition.  To really understand the broader consequences and much of what lies behind all this, you need to fully understand the Rockefeller Foundation, who’s mission statement is “population reduction and population control”.  It gets even more ‘fun’ when you realize that the Federal Reserve is NOT owned by the United States Government, it is in fact privately owned, and is SUPPOSED to be accountable to the U.S. Treasury.  More interesting to note is that the Rockefeller Banking cartels constitute 1/5 the ownership of the F.R.

I mentioned that the U.S. Treasury is supposed to have control over the Federal Reserve…HOWEVER…the U.S. Treasury BORROWS money from the Federal Reserve.  He who has the money, has the power.  (btw, the Federal Reserve loaned out to UNDISCLOSED foreign nations, 2.2 trillion dollars recently…they are not disclosing the information, even when questioned on the Senate Floor today.  An investigation will be insuing.  Ironically, the last COngressman that TRIED to lanuch an investigation into the Federal Reserve, was tragically killed in a singular automobile accident.  (in other words, no other cars invovled).  Its an interesting history, starting in 1914.  Woodrow Wilson later wrote in his memoirs that he made the most tragic mistake for this country that he had ever imagined, and regretted the creation of the Central Banking system till his dying day.

5.  Obama wants to take over the historically unbiased, bi-partisan Census Bureau.  WOW.  Again, the implications of this are mind-boggling.  This is how all demographics are determined, all districts, taxation. etc etc.  It can be drawn any way he wishes, assuring always a vote for Party.  His Party. 

6.  There are those naive observers that continue to beleive this Economic Stimulus Package was put into place as a way to stimululate the economy.  That is hardly the case.  As Rham et al say…“no point in wasting a good crises”.  OUr currrent economic crises is the vehicle to foist in all these other things….and none of them are overt…the are all hidden and oblique…you have to connect the dots.  The Obamanites don’t even question it, cannot even see the fallacy upon fallcy of failed economic thought contained within the Bill.  For example, he wants to give aide to those that are behind on their mortage payments.  But then, in 18 months, he wants to get rid of the ability to write off mortgage interest payments on your house.  Cannot ANYONE see the appalling dichotomy in this??? 

The Omnibus Budget has 8,758 earmarks in it.  Obama was the man that ran his entire campaign on “no earmarks”.  He could easily veto the Bill and send it back to the Houise and tell them to get the earmarks out.  He won’t.  He will not do a single thing his constiuents want, he will not entertain an oppsing thought by a Republican, he will not do a damn thing ANYONE wants, excpet push his agenda.  An example of this is “change.org”, the most highly commented upon thing was the Patriot Act…When he asked, “share me your thoughts, what woudl you like to see”...the #1 response was to repeal the Patriot Act.  He won’t.  (now, when HR 5122 in conjunction with the Global Poverty Act and the “computer system” all come online…he can easily repeal the Patriot Act…it won’t be needed any longer).  Until then..it remains. 

7.  The issues of Birth Certificate.  This issue I always thought was rather stupid.  It is getting more and more interesting.  I happen to be personnel friends with one of the leading attorneys in several of these cases.  3 are still pending, 3 have been thrown out.  They are thrown out because they do not want ANYTHING to come to light of day.  Let me qualify this statement…this is not to say he is innocent or guilty..but rather…they dont even want to go there. There is a LOT of money being used up here, and a lot of palms beign greased.  As I said, i never gave this much thought until Dr Taitz revealed how many millions of dollars Obama has spent warding off these lawsuits.  It just occurs to me that IF he is innocent, why spend all those millions in defense…Simply show the Cert and be done with it.  The Supreme Court is in a quandry over this.  So is the Military.  The Supreme Court does not want to delve into this, because there is no legal precedent on what to do.  IF he were found guilty, they cannot impeach, for impeachment requires that one legally held office in the first place.  Its a real conundrum from what I understand. 

Anyways…when you fall out of the Dark Side and come over to the Force and really start looking…you’re jaw will drop.  This is truly like Neo taking the Pill and climbing down the rabbit hole and discovering the Matrix.  It is AMAZING stuff! 

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Posted by spinpolitico | 03/05/09, 01:42 AM EST

Republicans love to give my tax money to Iraq, what a bunch of socialist losers. First these socialists run the country into a ditch and now they want Obama to fail. What a bunch of lousy bums.

Posted by J.T. | 03/05/09, 06:45 AM EST

Um, are you really ignorant, or are you making a bad joke?  “Socialist” means something that does not match with your statement

Posted by Chris D in Left Coast | 03/05/09, 08:47 AM EST

Hey J.T.  (dimwit)

1.  Obama just gave 900 million to the Palestinians
2.  Obama just gae 300 million to Hammas
3.  Obama just gave 848 million to the U.N.
4.  The list goes on and on.

No offense, but you are a moron.  Go post at: seasemestreet.com

Posted by spinpolitico | 03/05/09, 10:41 AM EST

Thanks for turning me on to Rush.  At least I don’t feel alone out here.

Is anyone surprised that people’s retirement funds being lost daily on the stock market is of no concern to Obama as stated in his press conference. Socialist agenda is being rushed in along with debt that will last the rest of every living persons life time.

Why??  He wants this country to tank. If people loose all their retirement savings their jobs, their homes then they are fully dependent on the government. This is an obvious democrat agenda. And Shame on you and those who turn a blind eye to the propaganda that you brain wash them with to support this.

Tax the businesses?  Bring in the Unions? 

This has been done in the past and what happened? The businesses and jobs moved to a different countries. If the U.S. does not make it beneficial to do business here, in this world economy there are countries that will attract our companies to relocate offering incentives and not demonizing them.

Obama is behaving like a Chauvez.  He is giving the little guy money to buy their support.  Next he will have the new energy sources be government owned.  The businesses become Union and as noted the Government will mediate and be able to set the wages for 2 years essentially driving any business out if they don’t tow the line of the dem party which is now officially the Socialist party.

Obama is listening to the right so that he can speak with a forked tongue to put out his propaganda like, responsible spending, supporting small business, giving everyone tax breaks (which in California will buy a gallon of milk and loaf of bread.) These are great sound bites for NBC his propaganda machine. 

This keeps up and the idiots that cling to their guns, Bible and freedom will be the first US Refugees seeking a new country.  These are the people who also would prefer to work and provide for themselves and not have the government run their life.

Lining the pockets of dem supporters with this massive spending and broad legislation to expand the government role as well as the direct plan to make Rush the new Bush for the propaganda machine to focus the dems to hate and keep the focus off of the loss of liberty and wealth of this country. 

Big Government = Big Brother, the Loss of Liberty and Pursuit of Happiness.  As for Life…It will be a life sentence for us all.

OBAMA and Pelosi have done more damage in 45 days then the Bush administration did in 8 years.

Posted by Melinda in CA | 03/05/09, 11:02 AM EST
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